Re: [Scheme-reports] Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Denis Washington (15 Oct 2011 07:14 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Jeronimo Pellegrini (15 Oct 2011 12:06 UTC)
Re: Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Arthur A. Gleckler (16 Oct 2011 04:46 UTC)
Re: Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Arthur A. Gleckler (16 Oct 2011 21:08 UTC)
Re: Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Arthur A. Gleckler (17 Oct 2011 06:27 UTC)
[Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Jussi Piitulainen (16 Oct 2011 14:45 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (17 Oct 2011 06:41 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (17 Oct 2011 23:39 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Jussi Piitulainen (20 Oct 2011 12:12 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Ray Dillinger (25 Oct 2011 00:43 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (25 Oct 2011 02:17 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (20 Oct 2011 08:21 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Ray Dillinger (20 Oct 2011 17:06 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (20 Oct 2011 17:46 UTC)
Re: Legacy caar to cddddr Arthur A. Gleckler (20 Oct 2011 17:50 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (20 Oct 2011 20:18 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (20 Oct 2011 22:44 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (21 Oct 2011 02:48 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (22 Oct 2011 00:04 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (23 Oct 2011 05:27 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (20 Oct 2011 17:52 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Grant Rettke (21 Oct 2011 02:34 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (21 Oct 2011 02:51 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (21 Oct 2011 02:56 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Grant Rettke (21 Oct 2011 20:16 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (22 Oct 2011 00:14 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (22 Oct 2011 14:47 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (22 Oct 2011 17:56 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (22 Oct 2011 19:15 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (22 Oct 2011 20:31 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (23 Oct 2011 08:11 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (23 Oct 2011 19:41 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Denis Washington (22 Oct 2011 19:16 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (24 Oct 2011 00:57 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (23 Oct 2011 05:39 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (23 Oct 2011 08:04 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Jussi Piitulainen (23 Oct 2011 11:44 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (23 Oct 2011 15:16 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (23 Oct 2011 16:27 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (23 Oct 2011 18:14 UTC)

Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn 21 Oct 2011 02:50 UTC

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Grant Rettke <grettke@acm.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Alex Shinn <alexshinn@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
>> <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do all these need to remain in the language? In (scheme base)?
>>
>> We should put them somewhere for compatibility, but
>> I definitely think everything but the one and two depth
>> combinations should be removed from (scheme base).
>> Their use is generally a code smell.  People should
>> use destructuring, records, or SRFI-1 first..tenth accessors.
>
> Is this a case where common practice among Scheme implementation is
> the functions are no longer valued so they are going away?

No, this is a case where the use of those procedures is
almost universally a bad idea, and it takes up space in
what's supposed to be a "small" language.

I've used those procedures myself, and *every* single
time it has been a mistake.  I'd rather they go away so
I'm not tempted, and am forced to properly abstract
from the start.

--
Alex

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