Peter Bex scripsit: > Just declaring a grab-bag of libraries as "standardized" isn't going > to work, especially considering the current tendency is towards > marginalizing many Scheme implementations by doing things like > declaring Unicode and the full numeric tower as mandatory. If you're thinking about Chicken, then it's important to realize that the default mode does not have to be the standard-compliant mode. Until recently, Chibi's default was R5RS+ rather than R7RS-small; Racket's default is #lang racket, which doesn't comply with any specific Scheme standard; Gambit doesn't support R5RS macros unless you load the syntax-rules library; and so on. Here's the current list of Schemes that support the full numeric and character towers: Racket, Gauche, MIT, Gambit, Chicken (with eggs), Scheme48/scsh, Kawa, Chibi, Guile, Chez, Vicare, Larceny, Ypsilon, Mosh, IronScheme, STklos, KSi. In addition, the Java/CLR based Schemes (other than Kawa) almost do: they support characters up to U+FFFF. > I also agree with Wingo's remarks: this standard is just a bunch of > folks who like to quibble about language esoterics, This judgement is grossly premature to say the least. > instead of implementors who know their stuff, and have a feeling > for the way standards can help or hinder implementation and > experimentation. Standards are not the place for experimentation, I agree. > The scope is also way too large, which means people like me won't > have the energy to keep up with all proposals; by the end, the only > people left will be those with nothing better to do than argue about > standards. Hence the "drop in, drop out" policy. People can join whenever they get interested, and stop voting (since abstentions do not count either for or against a proposal). > This is turning out to be truly "design by committee". I'm also going > to stop participating in this standardization effort. Well, that's a pity. We could certainly use your input. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Original line from The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold: "Only on Barrayar would pulling a loaded needler start a stampede toward one." English-to-Russian-to-English mangling thereof: "Only on Barrayar you risk to lose support instead of finding it when you threat with the charged weapon." _______________________________________________ Scheme-reports mailing list Scheme-reports@scheme-reports.org http://lists.scheme-reports.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scheme-reports