Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax John Cowan (06 Jan 2013 17:37 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax Peter Bex (06 Jan 2013 18:57 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax Alex Shinn (07 Jan 2013 02:18 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax John Cowan (07 Jan 2013 02:46 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax Alex Shinn (07 Jan 2013 02:48 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax John Cowan (07 Jan 2013 03:21 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax Peter Bex (07 Jan 2013 08:35 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax Andy Wingo (07 Jan 2013 11:28 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax Alex Shinn (07 Jan 2013 14:57 UTC)

Re: [Scheme-reports] auxiliary syntax John Cowan 06 Jan 2013 17:37 UTC

Peter Bex scripsit:

> I think trying to catch these things is misguided.  It's fine if an
> implementation like Racket does this to guide students, but seasoned
> Scheme programmers don't need this kind of hand-holding.

On the contrary.  The whole point of binding them by default is so that
they can safely be rebound and used as auxiliary keywords by other macros.
If they are left unbound, they are inherently non-hygienic.

If only syntax-parameters were a little more mature, I'd
propose them for R7RS-large like a shot: they are the best
resolution I have seen to the desire to break hygiene.  See
<http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/stxparam.html> for Racket,
<http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Syntax-Parameters.html>
for Guile, and the paper
<http://www.schemeworkshop.org/2011/papers/Barzilay2011.pdf>.
In particular, it would be good to know if syntactic-closures and
explicit-renaming systems allow them easily.

--
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