Re: [Scheme-reports] Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Denis Washington (15 Oct 2011 07:14 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Jeronimo Pellegrini (15 Oct 2011 12:06 UTC)
Re: Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Arthur A. Gleckler (16 Oct 2011 04:46 UTC)
Re: Appeal for review help with R7RS draft 4 Arthur A. Gleckler (16 Oct 2011 21:08 UTC)
[Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Jussi Piitulainen (16 Oct 2011 14:45 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (17 Oct 2011 06:41 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (17 Oct 2011 23:39 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Jussi Piitulainen (20 Oct 2011 12:12 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Ray Dillinger (25 Oct 2011 00:43 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (25 Oct 2011 02:17 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (20 Oct 2011 08:21 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Ray Dillinger (20 Oct 2011 17:06 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (20 Oct 2011 17:46 UTC)
Re: Legacy caar to cddddr Arthur A. Gleckler (20 Oct 2011 17:50 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (20 Oct 2011 20:18 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (20 Oct 2011 22:44 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (21 Oct 2011 02:48 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (22 Oct 2011 00:04 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (23 Oct 2011 05:27 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (20 Oct 2011 17:52 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Grant Rettke (21 Oct 2011 02:34 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (21 Oct 2011 02:51 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (21 Oct 2011 02:56 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Grant Rettke (21 Oct 2011 20:16 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (22 Oct 2011 00:14 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (22 Oct 2011 14:47 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (22 Oct 2011 17:56 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (22 Oct 2011 19:15 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (22 Oct 2011 20:31 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (23 Oct 2011 08:11 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (23 Oct 2011 19:41 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Denis Washington (22 Oct 2011 19:16 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Aubrey Jaffer (24 Oct 2011 00:57 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (23 Oct 2011 05:39 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (23 Oct 2011 08:04 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Jussi Piitulainen (23 Oct 2011 11:44 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Alex Shinn (23 Oct 2011 15:16 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder (23 Oct 2011 16:27 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr John Cowan (23 Oct 2011 18:14 UTC)

Re: [Scheme-reports] Legacy caar to cddddr Andre van Tonder 22 Oct 2011 14:46 UTC

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Aubrey Jaffer wrote:

> | I've used those procedures myself, and *every* single time it has
> | been a mistake.  I'd rather they go away so I'm not tempted, and am
> | forced to properly abstract from the start.
>
> C*R procedures are very useful in symbolic algebra, for graphs and
> trees, and for manipulating programs (such as compiling).  Claims of
> their demise are premature.

I agree.  I have found them useful for manipulating programs.  Once you are
used to them, you can see at a glance what they are doing (just like with CAR
and CDR).

Here is an example of their use in a renaming-style macro (as WG2 promises us
we will have).  Used here are CAR, CDR, CADR, CDDR, CADDR, and CDDDR.  All
these are used in a completely obvious and transparent way.  This is not a
"code smell".

     (define-syntax do
      (er-transformer
       (lambda (exp r c)
         (or (and (pair? (cdr exp))
                  (pair? (cddr exp)))
             (syntax-error))
         (let ((specs (cadr exp))
               (end (caddr exp))
               (body (cdddr exp))
               (loop (syntax loop)))
           (or (and (list? specs)
                    (every? do-spec? specs)
                    (list? end))
               (syntax-error))
           (quasiquote
            (,(r 'letrec) ((,loop
                       (,(r lambda) ,(map car specs)
                         (,(r 'cond) ,end
                               (,(r 'else) ,@body
                                     (,loop
                                       ,@(map (lambda (spec)
                                                (if (null? (cddr spec))
                                                    (car spec)
                                                    (caddr spec)))
                                              specs)))))))
              (,loop ,@(map cadr specs))))))))

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