[Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Shiro Kawai (09 Jan 2012 13:17 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification John Cowan (09 Jan 2012 16:12 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Peter Bex (09 Jan 2012 18:22 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification John Cowan (09 Jan 2012 19:52 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Peter Bex (09 Jan 2012 19:59 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification John Cowan (10 Jan 2012 01:52 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Alaric Snell-Pym (10 Jan 2012 10:36 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Jussi Piitulainen (10 Jan 2012 10:54 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Peter Bex (10 Jan 2012 11:14 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Alaric Snell-Pym (10 Jan 2012 11:24 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification John Cowan (11 Mar 2012 20:05 UTC)
Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Alaric Snell-Pym (10 Jan 2012 11:15 UTC)

Re: [Scheme-reports] Symbol escapes - clarification Alaric Snell-Pym 10 Jan 2012 11:14 UTC

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On 01/10/2012 10:53 AM, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> Alaric Snell-Pym writes:
>> On 01/10/2012 01:51 AM, John Cowan wrote:
>>>> Maybe a whitelist of characters that are definitely allowed
>>>> in symbols?
>>>
>>> There is such a list (of ASCII characters only) in 2.1.
>>
>> Don't forget that string->symbol exists, and if it doesn't live by
>> the same restrictions, will be capable of generating symbols that
>> can't be represented with WRITE. And if it does live by those
>> restrictions, it'll be faintly annoying that strings and symbols
>> aren't symmetrical.
>
> Such symmetry could be had on the cheap by building the escape syntax
> for symbols directly on string syntax, say #"102" instead of |102|.
>
> Just a thought.
>
>> The text on identifiers in 2.1 says that . is not an identifier; does
>> that mean I *cannot* write (define |.| 123) and then (+ |.| 456)?
>
> I think it only means that you cannot write (define . 123) but must
> write (define |.| 123) instead.
>

The later text that "In addition..." permits escapes might suggest that,
but it seems less strongly worded than the original text prohibiting it.
I think it just needs clarifying what refers to written notation and
what refers to the actual characters comprising symbols!

As I see it, . *is* an identifier, but . is not a valid written
representation for a symbol (or identifier) as it's used as a special
token to trigger improper lists, so the identifier . needs to be
*written* |.|, etc.

ABS

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Alaric Snell-Pym
http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/alaric/
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